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<big>Here are additional notes by [http://newshare.typepad.com/about.html Bill Densmore] of Thursday's evening's discussion at the Journalism That Matters-Pacific Northwest convening. More than 230 participants are participating over three days. Now we're going through three rounds of "world cafe." </big>
 
<big>Here are additional notes by [http://newshare.typepad.com/about.html Bill Densmore] of Thursday's evening's discussion at the Journalism That Matters-Pacific Northwest convening. More than 230 participants are participating over three days. Now we're going through three rounds of "world cafe." </big>
  
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We've been though three rounds. There is video of these report outs that you can stream from here:
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*Kate Gable suggests a few themes. She wrotes for the Chinook Observer. Three themes: Identity and authenticity online -- how and when should that identity be verified in some way?  What voice are you speaking in and therefore what are the new norms that need to be created to play in this new place. We are stepping into convergence journalism. McNeil Leherer doing more online; Grist trying to do more investigative. What are the new rules and do you need to follow them.
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*Dave Horsey with Hearst Newspapers. Chuck Taylor started drawing a literal map of Seattle. What struck him was how despite all the negative thoughs and worries expressed tonight -- this city of Seattle is pretty well positioned to move ahead in this new ecosystem. There's a balance of media and a media-savvy users. All the way from West Seattle to MSNBC in Redmond, (which runs MSNBC in New York). "We have this national news organization right here." How have they come out of losing the SeattlePI -- "We are better off than some cities would be." There is now SeattlePI.com, which is working; and there is still the Seattle Times, which is one of the better papers in the country. Hearst felt with SeattlePI.com: "This is just a community where that might work." A lot of good stuff going on. "Half of us are out of jobs but everything else is not so bad!"
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Zack Burden. Start by asking about rules and what we value.
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Pam Kilbourne: They saw emerging enthusiasm in the area. "There's been a big crackup but in a sense we are going back to basics with the story." Rebuilding from the ground up.  Kids aren't being taught media literacy in school and maybe there should be an initiative to teach that, to get kids involved, because sometime in their the lives they will have to advocate something. There was the emerging theme of cross-platform networks.  But not emerging in the discussion: Business models.
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Harold Sinchauto, SAP Business Objects in Germany. He talks about global exchange ... and hyper local. There are new ways of thinking about how you map the territory. And how do we map value? That was raised by someone else. Why is the Dow Jones Industrial Average the only metric of value? Why not have another one?
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Diane Betlith: They looked at trends that were expanding, diminishing and where we had questions. More optimistic than they thought about the world condition and about the promise of more collaboration. Optimism about seeing government embrace the Internet and multimedia for transparency, policy development and connecting with the government in new ways. But also note the digital divided. Less replication of stories and more building of stories through acretion and depth. How does this fit into the market economy? Are we seeing more or less in watchdogs? There may be more eyes and ears out there, but there is worry about the kind of reporting through relationships build over years of trust. What will happen to the disclosures and scrutiny that developed out of those kinds of relationships?
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Michelle Ferrier: Not from the region she can't notice lots. She wanted to know if the folks in the room are representative of the landscape?
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Peter Rinhear: Doing a startup which involves journalism. There are lots of reasons why people are pessimistic. As a youth, he and a friend drove 12,000 miles to interview newspaper editors and asked them, are you doing enough to let in the voices of your community. They thought they were doing a good job. Now there are lots of reasons to feel anxious, but there are going to be a lot of new things coming long -- its an exciting time.
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Charlie Hamilton: An ex media guy too. Discussions tonight more positive than he had expected also.
  
  

Revision as of 04:51, 8 January 2010

JTM-PNW-Thursday evening's world cafes

Here are additional notes by Bill Densmore of Thursday's evening's discussion at the Journalism That Matters-Pacific Northwest convening. More than 230 participants are participating over three days. Now we're going through three rounds of "world cafe."

We've been though three rounds. There is video of these report outs that you can stream from here:

  • Kate Gable suggests a few themes. She wrotes for the Chinook Observer. Three themes: Identity and authenticity online -- how and when should that identity be verified in some way? What voice are you speaking in and therefore what are the new norms that need to be created to play in this new place. We are stepping into convergence journalism. McNeil Leherer doing more online; Grist trying to do more investigative. What are the new rules and do you need to follow them.
  • Dave Horsey with Hearst Newspapers. Chuck Taylor started drawing a literal map of Seattle. What struck him was how despite all the negative thoughs and worries expressed tonight -- this city of Seattle is pretty well positioned to move ahead in this new ecosystem. There's a balance of media and a media-savvy users. All the way from West Seattle to MSNBC in Redmond, (which runs MSNBC in New York). "We have this national news organization right here." How have they come out of losing the SeattlePI -- "We are better off than some cities would be." There is now SeattlePI.com, which is working; and there is still the Seattle Times, which is one of the better papers in the country. Hearst felt with SeattlePI.com: "This is just a community where that might work." A lot of good stuff going on. "Half of us are out of jobs but everything else is not so bad!"

Zack Burden. Start by asking about rules and what we value.

Pam Kilbourne: They saw emerging enthusiasm in the area. "There's been a big crackup but in a sense we are going back to basics with the story." Rebuilding from the ground up. Kids aren't being taught media literacy in school and maybe there should be an initiative to teach that, to get kids involved, because sometime in their the lives they will have to advocate something. There was the emerging theme of cross-platform networks. But not emerging in the discussion: Business models.

Harold Sinchauto, SAP Business Objects in Germany. He talks about global exchange ... and hyper local. There are new ways of thinking about how you map the territory. And how do we map value? That was raised by someone else. Why is the Dow Jones Industrial Average the only metric of value? Why not have another one?

Diane Betlith: They looked at trends that were expanding, diminishing and where we had questions. More optimistic than they thought about the world condition and about the promise of more collaboration. Optimism about seeing government embrace the Internet and multimedia for transparency, policy development and connecting with the government in new ways. But also note the digital divided. Less replication of stories and more building of stories through acretion and depth. How does this fit into the market economy? Are we seeing more or less in watchdogs? There may be more eyes and ears out there, but there is worry about the kind of reporting through relationships build over years of trust. What will happen to the disclosures and scrutiny that developed out of those kinds of relationships?

Michelle Ferrier: Not from the region she can't notice lots. She wanted to know if the folks in the room are representative of the landscape?

Peter Rinhear: Doing a startup which involves journalism. There are lots of reasons why people are pessimistic. As a youth, he and a friend drove 12,000 miles to interview newspaper editors and asked them, are you doing enough to let in the voices of your community. They thought they were doing a good job. Now there are lots of reasons to feel anxious, but there are going to be a lot of new things coming long -- its an exciting time.

Charlie Hamilton: An ex media guy too. Discussions tonight more positive than he had expected also.


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