http://www.newshare.com/wiki/index.php?title=Jtm-pnw-session-holy-grail&feed=atom&action=historyJtm-pnw-session-holy-grail - Revision history2024-03-28T11:57:12ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.31.1http://www.newshare.com/wiki/index.php?title=Jtm-pnw-session-holy-grail&diff=2978&oldid=prevDougschuler at 00:09, 22 January 20102010-01-22T00:09:02Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>While the news <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">may have its </del>place, the main question that needs answering is what information and communication do people actually need &mdash; and, arguably, this goes way beyond news.  The subsequent question (not answered here) is what can be done to ensure that this actually occurs.  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>While the news <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">definitely has a </ins>place, the main question that needs answering <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">in my opinion </ins>is what information and communication do people <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">''</ins>actually need<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'' </ins>&mdash; and, arguably, this goes way beyond news.  The subsequent question (not answered here) is what can be done to ensure that this actually occurs.  </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>News attaches prominence on immediacy: What's happening right now is the all-important factor. And for that reason, news itself is often literally useless. It can be very entertaining and enticing, but it falls flat in the usefulness department when the voting, invasion, or bus crash, has already occurred.  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>News attaches prominence on immediacy: What's happening right now is the all-important factor. And for that reason, news itself is often literally useless. It can be very entertaining and enticing, but it falls flat in the usefulness department when the voting, invasion, or bus crash, has already occurred.  </div></td></tr>
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</table>Dougschulerhttp://www.newshare.com/wiki/index.php?title=Jtm-pnw-session-holy-grail&diff=2974&oldid=prevDougschuler: New page: I apologize for the fact that the "News should Not be Journalism's Holy Grail" session didn't happen. There was plenty of interest — more than I had reckoned on. I was catching up with...2010-01-22T00:00:49Z<p>New page: I apologize for the fact that the "News should Not be Journalism's Holy Grail" session didn't happen. There was plenty of interest — more than I had reckoned on. I was catching up with...</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>I apologize for the fact that the "News should Not be Journalism's Holy Grail" session didn't happen. There was plenty of interest — more than I had reckoned on. I was catching up with Lew Friedland from Wisconsin and the time passed too quickly. <br />
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If the session didn't happen, what is this verbiage? As advised by Peggy in her introduction to Open Space, a single person can constitute a session. And since I had jotted down my thoughts on the subject (what you see below) I thought I'd share them. Obviously the issue isn't totally solved by these preliminary thoughts. I'd love to see this annotated by other people who had wanted to join this session. <br />
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'''Holy Grail, News-Man!'''<br />
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While the news may have its place, the main question that needs answering is what information and communication do people actually need &mdash; and, arguably, this goes way beyond news. The subsequent question (not answered here) is what can be done to ensure that this actually occurs. <br />
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News attaches prominence on immediacy: What's happening right now is the all-important factor. And for that reason, news itself is often literally useless. It can be very entertaining and enticing, but it falls flat in the usefulness department when the voting, invasion, or bus crash, has already occurred. <br />
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When the news is the only thing that matters, the factors leading up to a news story as well as the consequences and implications that follow the story do not receive the attention they deserve. <br />
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Focusing on news is a way to entice a society with attention deficit disorder. And months after the news story, the audience can't remember who was bombed (or the reason that was given) or where the famine took place (or what factors helped cause it). <br />
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The also helps can help instill a feeling of helplessness (and/or cynicism and/or ignorance) because we rarely learn about roles we might play since we didn't see the news coming and we don't see where it's going or what might come next. <br />
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News preempts the important &mdash; and often unrealized &mdash; products of journalism that we could call the ''pre-'' and ''post-'' news. <br />
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This definitely overlaps with the great concept of "Slow News" that was introduced at the conference. I have to admit it took awhile (a few minutes at least) for this concept to grow on me. (I'm hoping that somebody &mdash; ''Michelle?'' &mdash; will also post a draft ''Slow News'' pattern to the [http://www.publicsphereproject.org/patterns/ pattern language] site.)</div>Dougschuler