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==Mapping the Fourth Sector -- Page three ==
 
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==AFTERNOON SESSION: A report on the Mapping the Fourth Sector Project=
  
[http://www.fourthsector.net/learn ABOUT THE FOURTH SECTOR]===
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===Bill Densmore's running notes on "Mapping the Fourth Sector" summit at George Washington University on Thurs., Jan. 15, 2015. These notes are raw, in real time and subject to correction.  This page will be updated as fixes and details are added and to format better.===
  
=AFTERNOON SESSION: A report on the Mapping the Fourth Sector Project=
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==Introduction: Elizabeth Boris, director, Center on Nonprofits and Philanthropy, The Urban Institute, co-lead, Fourth SEctor Mapping Project  
 
 
===Bill Densmore's running notes on "Mapping the Fourth Sector" summit at George Washington University on Thurs.,
 
 
 
Jan. 15, 2015. These notes are raw, in real time and subject to correction.  This page will be updated as fixes and
 
 
 
details are added and to format better.===
 
 
 
==Introduction: Elizabeth Boris, director, Center on Nonprofits and Philanthropy, The Urban Institute, co-lead,  
 
 
 
Fourth SEctor Mapping Project  
 
  
 
For Benfits share two practices:
 
For Benfits share two practices:
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"We need a systematic approach to differentiating these organizations."  
 
"We need a systematic approach to differentiating these organizations."  
  
There is a critical need for comprehensive data -- taxonomy or classification system. What are important data  
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There is a critical need for comprehensive data -- taxonomy or classification system. What are important data elements. Understand the barriers facing these organization.  
 
 
elements. Understand the barriers facing these organization.  
 
 
 
"The lack of accessible data hinders public polciy ... peer learnign and the development of a supportive policy
 
  
structure.
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"The lack of accessible data hinders public polciy ... peer learnign and the development of a supportive policy structure.
  
 
PHASE ONE: The building blocks  
 
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====Who will use thei information: Arturo Gonzalez====
 
====Who will use thei information: Arturo Gonzalez====
*Manager, consumer and community development researcion, division of consuemr and community affiars, board of  
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*Manager, consumer and community development researcion, division of consuemr and community affiars, board of governors of the Federal Reserve System
  
governors of the Federal Reserve System
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Key desire: Gather information that will allow policy makers and regulator to make evidence-based decisions. It will help for-benefit organizations to find each other for supplies, support, best practices. It will help impact investors and funders to locate support services and investment opportunities.
  
Key desire: Gather information that will allow policy makers and regulator to make evidence-based decisions. It
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It will  help journalists to find data for sharing with the rest of the world, and also help conscious consumers to make purchasing decisions.    it will help job seekers to understand the mission and impact of potential employers.  
 
 
will help for-benefit organizations to find each other for supplies, support, best practices. It will help impact
 
 
 
investors and funders to locate support services and investment opportunities.
 
 
 
It will  help journalists to find data for sharing with the rest of the world, and also help conscious consumers to  
 
 
 
make purchasing decisions.    it will help job seekers to understand the mission and impact of potential employers.  
 
  
  
  
 
====How is project managed: Nathan Dietz====
 
====How is project managed: Nathan Dietz====
*Senior reserach associate, Center on Nonprofits and Philanthropy, The Urban Institute, co-lead, fourth Sector  
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*Senior reserach associate, Center on Nonprofits and Philanthropy, The Urban Institute, co-lead, fourth Sector Mapping Initiative  
 
 
Mapping Initiative  
 
  
 
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Primary goal: What defines the fourth sector?  
 
Primary goal: What defines the fourth sector?  
  
Secondary goal: Separate fourth sector organizations into families. Define sector boundaries and key attributes.  
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Secondary goal: Separate fourth sector organizations into families. Define sector boundaries and key attributes. Define families.  
  
Define families.
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Over 70 people were intersted in definitiona issues and put together a 10-12 person drafting team. Strove for diversity and  multiple user roles.  
 
 
Over 70 people were intersted in definitiona issues and put together a 10-12 person drafting team. Strove for  
 
 
 
diversity and  multiple user roles.  
 
  
 
"When people say for-benefit organizations or fourth sector, what do they mean?"
 
"When people say for-benefit organizations or fourth sector, what do they mean?"
  
They are not intendign to just do a survey; they don't just want people's thoughts. They want organizations to  
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They are not intendign to just do a survey; they don't just want people's thoughts. They want organizations to deliver administrative-quality data about the work they do and how they are structured.  
 
 
deliver administrative-quality data about the work they do and how they are structured.  
 
  
 
Four drafting teams for the survey-instrument drafting:  
 
Four drafting teams for the survey-instrument drafting:  

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Mapping the Fourth Sector -- Page three

ABOUT THE GATHERING / DETAILS ABOUT FOURTH SECTOR / ABOUT THE FOURTH SECTOR

=AFTERNOON SESSION: A report on the Mapping the Fourth Sector Project

Bill Densmore's running notes on "Mapping the Fourth Sector" summit at George Washington University on Thurs., Jan. 15, 2015. These notes are raw, in real time and subject to correction. This page will be updated as fixes and details are added and to format better.

==Introduction: Elizabeth Boris, director, Center on Nonprofits and Philanthropy, The Urban Institute, co-lead, Fourth SEctor Mapping Project

For Benfits share two practices:

  • Driven by social purpose
  • Earn substantial portion of income from commercial businesses

"We need a systematic approach to differentiating these organizations."

There is a critical need for comprehensive data -- taxonomy or classification system. What are important data elements. Understand the barriers facing these organization.

"The lack of accessible data hinders public polciy ... peer learnign and the development of a supportive policy structure.

PHASE ONE: The building blocks

TO COME:

(PHASE TWO: Definition and Taxonomy of For-Benefit Organizations) (PHASE THREE: Data Requirements.

Develop a framework for defining for-benefit organizations

They have an only database prototype already; it will be part of a public data commons.

They've had a brain trust working on it. REached out broadly and inclusively.

About 170 advisors stepped up to the table. All working toward developing a consensual framework and website.


"They have had many, many serious issues to confront."

Why are the users of this data going to be?

Joel Getzendanner reviewed 40-page overview of the project. Staging the project over time.

Have to find data that other people have gathered.

Develop rules for the data commons.

Who will use thei information: Arturo Gonzalez

  • Manager, consumer and community development researcion, division of consuemr and community affiars, board of governors of the Federal Reserve System

Key desire: Gather information that will allow policy makers and regulator to make evidence-based decisions. It will help for-benefit organizations to find each other for supplies, support, best practices. It will help impact investors and funders to locate support services and investment opportunities.

It will help journalists to find data for sharing with the rest of the world, and also help conscious consumers to make purchasing decisions. it will help job seekers to understand the mission and impact of potential employers.


How is project managed: Nathan Dietz

  • Senior reserach associate, Center on Nonprofits and Philanthropy, The Urban Institute, co-lead, fourth Sector Mapping Initiative

Former four groups:

  • Taxonomy development -- how to classify
  • Data acquisition -- How can we find?
  • Survey design
  • Data commons

Primary goal: What defines the fourth sector?

Secondary goal: Separate fourth sector organizations into families. Define sector boundaries and key attributes. Define families.

Over 70 people were intersted in definitiona issues and put together a 10-12 person drafting team. Strove for diversity and multiple user roles.

"When people say for-benefit organizations or fourth sector, what do they mean?"

They are not intendign to just do a survey; they don't just want people's thoughts. They want organizations to deliver administrative-quality data about the work they do and how they are structured.

Four drafting teams for the survey-instrument drafting:

  • profiles
  • barriers
  • ecosystems
  • impacts